Drink Driving in Germany on a e-scooter, UK National

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Rathmell84

New member
A few months ago I was in Hannover, Germany, on a night out and had quite a few drinks. When I decided to go back to the hotel, I made the stupid mistake of getting on a e-scooter. As I was around the corner from the hotel when I was stopped by a police officer. Breathalysed at the scene and failed. Taken to a local police station for a blood test. I was asked for my passport and I explained that I did not have it with me and it was in the hotel. I explained to the police and the doctor I only had my work ID card which is a US Government ID card. Immediately after presenting it to the officer and the doctor, I was told I could leave. I stood up and said ok and waited for something like a summons or a fixed penalty fine. I was told to leave the police station NOW.

At first I thought that I had go away with it and didn't hear anything for a month or so, when I received a letter from the Hannover Police Commission stating that they intended to prosecute me for the misdemeanour of drink driving whilst in charge of a e-scooter. They gave me the choice of attending the court or submitting a proxy plea in English. I pleaded guilty and expressed my regret for my actions and although it might seem naive, I did not comprehend the implications. I also spoke to one of the court ushers on the telephone and I asked him what would be the typical out come. Basically he told me it depended on who the judge was and how he was feeling. He said it could be a substantial fine or a driving ban in Germany.

At the moment I am a temporary worker in Germany, I work for a UK company and contracted to work for the US Department of Defence. I am not classed a full time resident, however I have a German address which is the address I gave at the Police station when I was booked in before seeing the doctor. I still have my UK driving licence and don't plan on changing it for a Germany one after Brexit.

With all been said and done. Could the German authorities, if banned in Germany, inform the DVLA and ban me in the UK or put a DD code on my license?
Do misdemeanour show on German / EU police checks ( Good conduct records)?
If I am issued a "substantial" fine and do not pay, would the German courts apply to the UK courts to enforce the fine?
 

topchippyles

Well-known member
A few months ago I was in Hannover, Germany, on a night out and had quite a few drinks. When I decided to go back to the hotel, I made the stupid mistake of getting on a e-scooter. As I was around the corner from the hotel when I was stopped by a police officer. Breathalysed at the scene and failed. Taken to a local police station for a blood test. I was asked for my passport and I explained that I did not have it with me and it was in the hotel. I explained to the police and the doctor I only had my work ID card which is a US Government ID card. Immediately after presenting it to the officer and the doctor, I was told I could leave. I stood up and said ok and waited for something like a summons or a fixed penalty fine. I was told to leave the police station NOW.

At first I thought that I had go away with it and didn't hear anything for a month or so, when I received a letter from the Hannover Police Commission stating that they intended to prosecute me for the misdemeanour of drink driving whilst in charge of a e-scooter. They gave me the choice of attending the court or submitting a proxy plea in English. I pleaded guilty and expressed my regret for my actions and although it might seem naive, I did not comprehend the implications. I also spoke to one of the court ushers on the telephone and I asked him what would be the typical out come. Basically he told me it depended on who the judge was and how he was feeling. He said it could be a substantial fine or a driving ban in Germany.

At the moment I am a temporary worker in Germany, I work for a UK company and contracted to work for the US Department of Defence. I am not classed a full time resident, however I have a German address which is the address I gave at the Police station when I was booked in before seeing the doctor. I still have my UK driving licence and don't plan on changing it for a Germany one after Brexit.

With all been said and done. Could the German authorities, if banned in Germany, inform the DVLA and ban me in the UK or put a DD code on my license?
Do misdemeanour show on German / EU police checks ( Good conduct records)?
If I am issued a "substantial" fine and do not pay, would the German courts apply to the UK courts to enforce the fine?
Any ban imposed in germany does not affect you in the uk.
 

bw2703

New member
I've come to this forum to seek answers as I committed an drink driving offence on an e scooter in October 2019. the fine was near 1150 euros. I didn't pay it on the night as I had no card just 150 euros cash is what they took. The police let me go and then I received a letter in the post in December 2019 two months later back in the UK. I didn't pay it . Fast forward to now, I've had a UK police check for a Visa and it has now appeared on. Germany and UK do talk to each and I'm awaiting an email to my query of if I do pay the fine will it be removed from my UK record.
 

bw2703

New member
A few months ago I was in Hannover, Germany, on a night out and had quite a few drinks. When I decided to go back to the hotel, I made the stupid mistake of getting on a e-scooter. As I was around the corner from the hotel when I was stopped by a police officer. Breathalysed at the scene and failed. Taken to a local police station for a blood test. I was asked for my passport and I explained that I did not have it with me and it was in the hotel. I explained to the police and the doctor I only had my work ID card which is a US Government ID card. Immediately after presenting it to the officer and the doctor, I was told I could leave. I stood up and said ok and waited for something like a summons or a fixed penalty fine. I was told to leave the police station NOW.

At first I thought that I had go away with it and didn't hear anything for a month or so, when I received a letter from the Hannover Police Commission stating that they intended to prosecute me for the misdemeanour of drink driving whilst in charge of a e-scooter. They gave me the choice of attending the court or submitting a proxy plea in English. I pleaded guilty and expressed my regret for my actions and although it might seem naive, I did not comprehend the implications. I also spoke to one of the court ushers on the telephone and I asked him what would be the typical out come. Basically he told me it depended on who the judge was and how he was feeling. He said it could be a substantial fine or a driving ban in Germany.

At the moment I am a temporary worker in Germany, I work for a UK company and contracted to work for the US Department of Defence. I am not classed a full time resident, however I have a German address which is the address I gave at the Police station when I was booked in before seeing the doctor. I still have my UK driving licence and don't plan on changing it for a Germany one after Brexit.

With all been said and done. Could the German authorities, if banned in Germany, inform the DVLA and ban me in the UK or put a DD code on my license?
Do misdemeanour show on German / EU police checks ( Good conduct records)?
If I am issued a "substantial" fine and do not pay, would the German courts apply to the UK courts to enforce the fine?
I've come to this forum to seek answers as I committed an drink driving offence on an e scooter in October 2019. the fine was near 1150 euros. I didn't pay it on the night as I had no card just 150 euros cash is what they took. The police let me go and then I received a letter in the post in December 2019 two months later back in the UK. I didn't pay it . Fast forward to now, I've had a UK police check for a Visa and it has now appeared on. Germany and UK do talk to each and I'm awaiting an email to my query of if I do pay the fine will it be removed from my UK record.
 

price1367

TTC Group
Paying the fine will not get it removed from the UK system. They have the conviction on file, not that there is a fine outstanding:

‘The certificate contains your complete conviction history, as recorded on police central records, including “spent” and “unspent” convictions. Additionally, the certificate contains criminal conviction information about offences committed in other foreign countries where such information has been disclosed to the UK through existing exchange mechanisms.’


So even after you have paid the fine, it will not give you a “clean sheet”.
 
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