Can I keep current insurance policy whilst banned?

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Unlucky23

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Hi, hoping someone can help. Will be convicted of drink driving next month when court date is due.

I want to keep my car until ban is served, I don't have off street parking as live in a terrace property. Can I keep my current insurance policy so the vehicle will remain insured?

I want to place a siblings name on the policy so they can drive the car to keep it ticking over. Is this doable? Thanks.
 
Hi, hoping someone can help. Will be convicted of drink driving next month when court date is due.

I want to keep my car until ban is served, I don't have off street parking as live in a terrace property. Can I keep my current insurance policy so the vehicle will remain insured?

I want to place a siblings name on the policy so they can drive the car to keep it ticking over. Is this doable? Thanks.
It’s perfectly legal for a sibling to insure and drive your vehicle whilst you are banned but you cannot keep your current policy active without deceiving the insurer. Your policy will state you are obliged to tell them of any driving convictions and once you tell them they will cancel the policy.

I can’t imagine you would be able to easily find a policy which would let you insure it whilst disqualified and in any case you will cease to be the primary driver ie the policyholder. Your sibling being an entirely different person will then need their own policy for the vehicle.

You may read online or be advised to just add a sibling as a named driver and they’ll never find out. They may not but if the police ever stop the vehicle or should there ever be a collision - even if someone else crashes into your car, you risk opening a whole can of worms. You will invalidate any cover for your car, risk having a policy cancellation for life and may even, depending on the circumstances, have police looking at your sibling for fraud offences for “fronting” the vehicle.

My advice would be to keep it above board and cancel your policy - although I wouldn’t offer any specifics to your insurer - just say you want to cancel.

Whilst I appreciate you’ve probably looked into it and ruled it out, I do have to mention the easiest thing to do is find somewhere for it to sit for a few months and SORN it.

Final point - assuming the car stays registered to you it remains a possibility that the police may pull it over to check you aren’t driving it. Nothing to worry about if everything is in check but just something to be aware might happen.
 
It’s perfectly legal for a sibling to insure and drive your vehicle whilst you are banned but you cannot keep your current policy active without deceiving the insurer. Your policy will state you are obliged to tell them of any driving convictions and once you tell them they will cancel the policy.

I can’t imagine you would be able to easily find a policy which would let you insure it whilst disqualified and in any case you will cease to be the primary driver ie the policyholder. Your sibling being an entirely different person will then need their own policy for the vehicle.

You may read online or be advised to just add a sibling as a named driver and they’ll never find out. They may not but if the police ever stop the vehicle or should there ever be a collision - even if someone else crashes into your car, you risk opening a whole can of worms. You will invalidate any cover for your car, risk having a policy cancellation for life and may even, depending on the circumstances, have police looking at your sibling for fraud offences for “fronting” the vehicle.

My advice would be to keep it above board and cancel your policy - although I wouldn’t offer any specifics to your insurer - just say you want to cancel.

Whilst I appreciate you’ve probably looked into it and ruled it out, I do have to mention the easiest thing to do is find somewhere for it to sit for a few months and SORN it.

Final point - assuming the car stays registered to you it remains a possibility that the police may pull it over to check you aren’t driving it. Nothing to worry about if everything is in check but just something to be aware might happen.
Hi Bad Karma, I don’t know if you’ve seen the update on my own thread on here where you and I have spoken a few times. Well anyway, long story short, confirmation of my charges arrived in the post yesterday, charges dated 18 days before the 6 month deadline. Bang goes that slim hope I was hanging on to 😞

So court date is 28/6 and the likelihood is I am getting a bad, so my thoughts have turned to how I’m going to get through that, in terms of convincing my employer that I can still do my job, so hopefully they’ll stick by me. To add context I work for a large commercial insurance broker and my role involves visiting clients for meetings and/or going in to office 2-3 days per week. With the flexibility to work from home a couple of days a week.

I have already had discussions with a couple of people (one retired and one semi retired) who have agreed they will drive for me for an hourly rate when required.

My missus is already a named driver on the policy but has her own car and policy. So my thoughts are make her the main driver on my policy and take myself off, and then add the 2 people that have agreed to do some driving for me as additional named drivers.

I suppose it will come down to my insurer’s (Privelege) attitude, but do you think that theoretically that might work?
 
Hi Bad Karma, I don’t know if you’ve seen the update on my own thread on here where you and I have spoken a few times. Well anyway, long story short, confirmation of my charges arrived in the post yesterday, charges dated 18 days before the 6 month deadline. Bang goes that slim hope I was hanging on to 😞

So court date is 28/6 and the likelihood is I am getting a bad, so my thoughts have turned to how I’m going to get through that, in terms of convincing my employer that I can still do my job, so hopefully they’ll stick by me. To add context I work for a large commercial insurance broker and my role involves visiting clients for meetings and/or going in to office 2-3 days per week. With the flexibility to work from home a couple of days a week.

I have already had discussions with a couple of people (one retired and one semi retired) who have agreed they will drive for me for an hourly rate when required.

My missus is already a named driver on the policy but has her own car and policy. So my thoughts are make her the main driver on my policy and take myself off, and then add the 2 people that have agreed to do some driving for me as additional named drivers.

I suppose it will come down to my insurer’s (Privelege) attitude, but do you think that theoretically that might work?
Hi Yorky,

No I hadn’t seen - that’s a shame and I’m sorry that you didn’t get the news you were hoping for. A ban will be inevitable unfortunately although do ask for the option to do the course and you will hopefully get the 25% reduction. The run up to court, as well as court itself, is the worst part although you have been living the past 6 months with the fear of what might come and whilst it’s not the news you wanted at least you now have clarity and will be able to start moving towards leaving the whole saga behind you.

There’s nothing wrong with what you suggest, it’s perfectly legal for your partner to insure it and to have additional drivers who will use the car to drive you when needed. I would cancel the policy if you haven’t already and be prepared to get a policy from another insurer as your existing provider will likely want to end the cover because you invalidated their T&Cs. They won’t cover damage caused to your vehicle but from an initial search in their policy wording it doesn’t look like they will try and reclaim third party costs from you which is a big bonus (although do read through the policy documentation you have to confirm this).

I live fairly rural and it was difficult at times for me to move about in the same way during my disqualification than I did before but it didn’t stop me. You will find a lot of posts and threads which tell a similar story - it is not always easy but it’s not complete doom and gloom either and you will readjust and become accustomed to new ways of getting about. You may even pick up new habits which you enjoy, I personally really started to enjoy walking places and got myself a bike which has become something I have continued and enjoy doing.

You know where to find us if you need anything over the next few weeks
 
Hi Yorky,

No I hadn’t seen - that’s a shame and I’m sorry that you didn’t get the news you were hoping for. A ban will be inevitable unfortunately although do ask for the option to do the course and you will hopefully get the 25% reduction. The run up to court, as well as court itself, is the worst part although you have been living the past 6 months with the fear of what might come and whilst it’s not the news you wanted at least you now have clarity and will be able to start moving towards leaving the whole saga behind you.

There’s nothing wrong with what you suggest, it’s perfectly legal for your partner to insure it and to have additional drivers who will use the car to drive you when needed. I would cancel the policy if you haven’t already and be prepared to get a policy from another insurer as your existing provider will likely want to end the cover because you invalidated their T&Cs. They won’t cover damage caused to your vehicle but from an initial search in their policy wording it doesn’t look like they will try and reclaim third party costs from you which is a big bonus (although do read through the policy documentation you have to confirm this).

I live fairly rural and it was difficult at times for me to move about in the same way during my disqualification than I did before but it didn’t stop me. You will find a lot of posts and threads which tell a similar story - it is not always easy but it’s not complete doom and gloom either and you will readjust and become accustomed to new ways of getting about. You may even pick up new habits which you enjoy, I personally really started to enjoy walking places and got myself a bike which has become something I have continued and enjoy doing.

You know where to find us if you need anything over the next few weeks
Thanks mate. I know you’re right, I’ll get through it, just got to stay strong.

Just to clarify, Privelege have only been my insurer since 10th April, I moved to them from Aviva who wanted just over 3k to renew following my accident in December.

Privilege did it for the absolute bargain price of £2400 🙄. So I obviously disclosed the accident to new insurer but not the DD as I wasn’t even charged with anything at that point.

So I’m thinking if I shift the policy to the missus and then just add the other driver(s) once required at the end of the month. I probably won’t need to tell them about the DD until I need insurance again in my own name.

The technicality I am going to have to
overcome is insuring the named drivers for business use… and it’ll be my business use.

Ps In terms of Aviva, they did say they could potentially come after me to recover the 3rd party’s costs depending on the outcome. They’ve not contacted me for an update for a while so just going to keep my head down as far as they’re concerned.
 
Thanks mate. I know you’re right, I’ll get through it, just got to stay strong.

Just to clarify, Privelege have only been my insurer since 10th April, I moved to them from Aviva who wanted just over 3k to renew following my accident in December.

Privilege did it for the absolute bargain price of £2400 🙄. So I obviously disclosed the accident to new insurer but not the DD as I wasn’t even charged with anything at that point.

So I’m thinking if I shift the policy to the missus and then just add the other driver(s) once required at the end of the month. I probably won’t need to tell them about the DD until I need insurance again in my own name.

The technicality I am going to have to
overcome is insuring the named drivers for business use… and it’ll be my business use.

Ps In terms of Aviva, they did say they could potentially come after me to recover the 3rd party’s costs depending on the outcome. They’ve not contacted me for an update for a while so just going to keep my head down as far as they’re concerned.
Oh yes, I remember you telling me Aviva was the original insurer previously. As you say keep your head down for now and get court over with first and then cross that bridge when you come to it.

Yes, it shouldn’t be a problem to make the swap and remove yourself from the policy, just make sure you obviously fully remove yourself before you are disqualified.

You are correct to say there’s somewhat of a peculiarity with having someone drive you to somewhere as part of your job whilst they themselves aren’t actually working but I don’t see why it would be that much of an issue as long as you have explained the arrangement to your insurer. Just correspond with them via writing and keep the correspondence where they agree to this.

If your partner isn’t using it for business purposes it may be worth looking into what sort of prices she would get for her own policy and how it could compare to then get a separate policy for these named drivers to use it for business purposes. It may work out significantly more expensive but it’s perhaps worth playing around with in the off chance you might save a bit of money.

On a final point which I meant to mention earlier - from memory your breath reading was over 2.5 the limit. Not sure what level your bloods have come back with but if it’s over 2.5 then you will be classed as a high risk offender and will have to go through a medical before you get your licence back. This isn’t anything to worry about this side of court but if it applies to you it’s worth having a read of the medical thread on here to familiarise yourself with the process, pitfalls and things to watch out for so you can get on the front foot and not inadvertently delay getting your licence back unnecessarily.
 
Oh yes, I remember you telling me Aviva was the original insurer previously. As you say keep your head down for now and get court over with first and then cross that bridge when you come to it.

Yes, it shouldn’t be a problem to make the swap and remove yourself from the policy, just make sure you obviously fully remove yourself before you are disqualified.

You are correct to say there’s somewhat of a peculiarity with having someone drive you to somewhere as part of your job whilst they themselves aren’t actually working but I don’t see why it would be that much of an issue as long as you have explained the arrangement to your insurer. Just correspond with them via writing and keep the correspondence where they agree to this.

If your partner isn’t using it for business purposes it may be worth looking into what sort of prices she would get for her own policy and how it could compare to then get a separate policy for these named drivers to use it for business purposes. It may work out significantly more expensive but it’s perhaps worth playing around with in the off chance you might save a bit of money.

On a final point which I meant to mention earlier - from memory your breath reading was over 2.5 the limit. Not sure what level your bloods have come back with but if it’s over 2.5 then you will be classed as a high risk offender and will have to go through a medical before you get your licence back. This isn’t anything to worry about this side of court but if it applies to you it’s worth having a read of the medical thread on here to familiarise yourself with the process, pitfalls and things to watch out for so you can get on the front foot and not inadvertently delay getting your licence back unnecessarily.
Thanks Bad Karma. Yes I’ll make sure I get myself taken off the policy before the court date (day before ideally)

I don’t know what the blood readings have come back as yet, solicitor checked the portal the day I found I was being charged but the evidence hadn’t been uploaded at that point, she said they usually do it with 7 days so they are going to keep checking this week.

Pray to god it’s under the threshold for me to be classed as a HRO, I have read a lot of threads/posts on here about the fun and games people have had getting their licences back when they fall into the HRO category.
 
Thanks Bad Karma. Yes I’ll make sure I get myself taken off the policy before the court date (day before ideally)

I don’t know what the blood readings have come back as yet, solicitor checked the portal the day I found I was being charged but the evidence hadn’t been uploaded at that point, she said they usually do it with 7 days so they are going to keep checking this week.

Pray to god it’s under the threshold for me to be classed as a HRO, I have read a lot of threads/posts on here about the fun and games people have had getting their licences back when they fall into the HRO category.
Being classed HRO is not an ideal position to find yourself in but as long as you are aware of what the process entails and are proactive to address any possible issues then it shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
 
Being classed HRO is not an ideal position to find yourself in but as long as you are aware of what the process entails and are proactive to address any possible issues then it shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Yet another twist, having spoken to a solicitor today, he has pointed out the charge is driving whilst unfit through drink, and not driving with excess alcohol. That explains why the charges never made any reference to the blood alcohol level which he said they usually would for a straightforward drink drive charge.

Solicitor thinks they realised they were getting very close to the 6 month deadline and still don’t have the blood results, hence they have gone with driving whilst unfit and not driving with excess alcohol do they at least have something to place before the courts before the time barring came in to play.

Driving whilst unfit is more difficult to prove he says. (by the way, this is the duty solicitor who sat in on my interview the day after I was arrested, not the snake oil salesman who wanted to charge me 9k for a technical defence and would tell you anything you wanted to hear so you’d part with your cash.
 
Yet another twist, having spoken to a solicitor today, he has pointed out the charge is driving whilst unfit through drink, and not driving with excess alcohol. That explains why the charges never made any reference to the blood alcohol level which he said they usually would for a straightforward drink drive charge.

Solicitor thinks they realised they were getting very close to the 6 month deadline and still don’t have the blood results, hence they have gone with driving whilst unfit and not driving with excess alcohol do they at least have something to place before the courts before the time barring came in to play.

Driving whilst unfit is more difficult to prove he says. (by the way, this is the duty solicitor who sat in on my interview the day after I was arrested, not the snake oil salesman who wanted to charge me 9k for a technical defence and would tell you anything you wanted to hear so you’d part with your cash.
He is correct that driving whilst unfit (section 4) is harder to prove than driving whilst over the limit (section 5) although it’s not a charge they will use that often for that very reason. A charge under section 4 requires “sufficient evidence of impairment” and what usually tips the scales for them to go with this charge is when a collision has occurred. There is another post on the forum today of someone in a similar position - they blew under but had a collision and is being charged under section 4.

The charging decision will have been taken by an experienced CPS prosecutor who believes there is a realistic prospect of conviction based on the evidence they have seen. Some of the things for you to consider which may be included in this assessment include police statements, anything you might have said or how intoxicated you appeared on body cam (if it exists), any interaction you had with members of the public, what you said (if anything) during interview and if you were tended to by paramedics / police nurse and what they have said about you, for example.

One of the biggest things in your favour is you haven’t been charged with careless or dangerous driving or any variation of it. They obviously do not believe they have sufficient evidence that your driving standard fell below that of a competent driver. On the other hand, one of the biggest things against you currently is probably the fact you did not stop following the collision as well as your breath reading. Whilst the latter can’t be used to charge you under section 5, with how high it was I would imagine you were visibly impaired. We had similar readings and I know I was very obviously intoxicated.

If I were you I wouldn’t plead not guilty, although it’s obviously very tempting to hold onto the hope of being acquitted. However, I don’t feel, from what I know about the incident, there’s enough of a possibility to get off. Although this is obviously a decision you need to make yourself whilst taking into account all the above.
 
He is correct that driving whilst unfit (section 4) is harder to prove than driving whilst over the limit (section 5) although it’s not a charge they will use that often for that very reason. A charge under section 4 requires “sufficient evidence of impairment” and what usually tips the scales for them to go with this charge is when a collision has occurred. There is another post on the forum today of someone in a similar position - they blew under but had a collision and is being charged under section 4.

The charging decision will have been taken by an experienced CPS prosecutor who believes there is a realistic prospect of conviction based on the evidence they have seen. Some of the things for you to consider which may be included in this assessment include police statements, anything you might have said or how intoxicated you appeared on body cam (if it exists), any interaction you had with members of the public, what you said (if anything) during interview and if you were tended to by paramedics / police nurse and what they have said about you, for example.

One of the biggest things in your favour is you haven’t been charged with careless or dangerous driving or any variation of it. They obviously do not believe they have sufficient evidence that your driving standard fell below that of a competent driver. On the other hand, one of the biggest things against you currently is probably the fact you did not stop following the collision as well as your breath reading. Whilst the latter can’t be used to charge you under section 5, with how high it was I would imagine you were visibly impaired. We had similar readings and I know I was very obviously intoxicated.

If I were you I wouldn’t plead not guilty, although it’s obviously very tempting to hold onto the hope of being acquitted. However, I don’t feel, from what I know about the incident, there’s enough of a possibility to get off. Although this is obviously a decision you need to make yourself whilst taking into account all the above.
I know, it’s the hope that kills you eh?

Solicitor checked again today and still no evidence posted so I think the key will be to wait and see what evidence they have to back up the lesser charge, for want of a better term.

No doubt they’ll try and leave that as late as possible, but I think this at least potentially gives me something to work with. Well at least it’s not as open and shut as driving with excess alcohol with a reading to back it up, where it would be game over and no option but to plead guilty at the earliest opportunity.

The interview I gave was “no comment” (other than making my point that I checked on the welfare of the other driver before I moved my car) and I certainly never admitted to drinking any amount that would have put me over the limit during any conversations which may have been caught on body cam.

Will the copper want to show the body cam footage where he tripped me and pinned me to the floor even though I was already cuffed at that point, because I was being “aggressive” simply because I told him to back off and leave my son alone who was checking I was okay.

I didn’t speak to anyone else other than someone further away from the scene where the car eventually conked, but he’d left by the time the police arrived. I had no contact with any medical persons, and as far as I recall the police never enquired if I was hurt or required any medical attention.

Reading up on similar cases where they are trying to prove driving whilst unfit it seems their most common route to go down is slurred speach/glazed eyes etc, but even if that’s the case and it’s caught on body cam, is that evidence that proves these charges beyond ‘reasonable doubt’ or could it be down to a bit of concussion from the collision I’d just had?

They claim they have CCTV footage of the accident from a pub on the roundabout where the collision occurred, but mysteriously couldn’t get the footage to play at the interview. But as you have said, if they have that and that footage offers any suggestion I was unfit, then surely they’d have gone for dangerous driving as well.

This has opened up a whole raft of additional questions just when I thought my fate was sealed but I suppose I have to hang on to any glimour of hope this provides. Maybe with this is where a really clued up solicitor could make a difference

Thank you as always for all your time and advice you have given me.

I will see if I can find the other thread you referred to where the other forum member is facing a similar charge.
 
I know, it’s the hope that kills you eh?
It really is and from experience we all usually overly attach ourselves to it and find it difficult to let go.

Solicitor checked again today and still no evidence posted so I think the key will be to wait and see what evidence they have to back up the lesser charge, for want of a better term.
Maybe with this is where a really clued up solicitor could make a difference
I think you are right, the best thing you can do now is to find a reputable solicitor and discuss the case with them once you have the evidence disclosed. Seeing what evidence they have on you will be the biggest indicator as to what to do next.

Reading up on similar cases where they are trying to prove driving whilst unfit it seems their most common route to go down is slurred speach/glazed eyes etc, but even if that’s the case and it’s caught on body cam, is that evidence that proves these charges beyond ‘reasonable doubt’ or could it be down to a bit of concussion from the collision I’d just had?
Don’t misconstrue “beyond reasonable doubt” as concrete proof, however. If the person you hit says you appeared intoxicated, they could smell drink on your breath, the police have stated in their report that your eyes were glazed and you were overly emotional and aggressive with them and had to be restrained (even if you dispute this) as well as the fact you drove off whilst your car was severely damaged without even realising - it all paints a picture. Although this all obviously depends on what their evidence is which you are yet to find out. Simply saying you were concussed (bear in mind you don’t even have a medical diagnosis at the time and didn’t tell the police you were injured) is significantly far off being able to get you off.

They claim they have CCTV footage of the accident from a pub on the roundabout where the collision occurred, but mysteriously couldn’t get the footage to play at the interview. But as you have said, if they have that and that footage offers any suggestion I was unfit, then surely they’d have gone for dangerous driving as well.
Not necessarily, the collision, as well as the possible footage of it, in and of itself is evidence you were unfit but even it was technically dangerous that you, like any drink driver, were on the roads, that won’t qualify for a dangerous/careless driving charge. Unfit driving is not (legally) dangerous driving. My point being it doesn’t seem they have evidence of your actual driving on the road as falling below the standard of a competent driver to use as extra evidence against you to help prove you were unfit. Although you obviously still have a lot against you.

Hoping you get the disclosure soon and, as always, best of luck and keep us updated
 
It really is and from experience we all usually overly attach ourselves to it and find it difficult to let go.



I think you are right, the best thing you can do now is to find a reputable solicitor and discuss the case with them once you have the evidence disclosed. Seeing what evidence they have on you will be the biggest indicator as to what to do next.


Don’t misconstrue “beyond reasonable doubt” as concrete proof, however. If the person you hit says you appeared intoxicated, they could smell drink on your breath, the police have stated in their report that your eyes were glazed and you were overly emotional and aggressive with them and had to be restrained (even if you dispute this) as well as the fact you drove off whilst your car was severely damaged without even realising - it all paints a picture. Although this all obviously depends on what their evidence is which you are yet to find out. Simply saying you were concussed (bear in mind you don’t even have a medical diagnosis at the time and didn’t tell the police you were injured) is significantly far off being able to get you off.


Not necessarily, the collision, as well as the possible footage of it, in and of itself is evidence you were unfit but even it was technically dangerous that you, like any drink driver, were on the roads, that won’t qualify for a dangerous/careless driving charge. Unfit driving is not (legally) dangerous driving. My point being it doesn’t seem they have evidence of your actual driving on the road as falling below the standard of a competent driver to use as extra evidence against you to help prove you were unfit. Although you obviously still have a lot against you.

Hoping you get the disclosure soon and, as always, best of luck and keep us updated
Thanks Bad Karma. I have spoken with Kenway Miller solicitors this morning having spent some time researching last night, and I think they look to tick all the boxes and motoring law is definitely their speciality. Having already decided I was going to call them anyway, I then realised this company represented me on a speeding offence in 2021 and got it discontinued. Hopefully a good omen!

So I have a call scheduled with the actual solicitor shortly at 1pm, and if that goes well my plan is to get them to view the evidence (when it’s available) and then go with their expert opinion based on the evidence.

I will then just stick with them and try to get the best possible outcome whether that’s to go not guilty and take it to trial, or go guilty and have them help me put the best mitigation forward to keep the ban as short as possible.

Just one question, which you may or may not know the answer to. If the charge does remain as ‘unfit’ rather than ‘excess alcohol’, does that remove the possibility of me being deemed a HRO, as that is determined by the alcohol reading isn’t it, and of course no alcohol reading will be involved if they secure a conviction for ‘unfit’

Sorry for yet another question?
 
Thanks Bad Karma. I have spoken with Kenway Miller solicitors this morning having spent some time researching last night, and I think they look to tick all the boxes and motoring law is definitely their speciality. Having already decided I was going to call them anyway, I then realised this company represented me on a speeding offence in 2021 and got it discontinued. Hopefully a good omen!

So I have a call scheduled with the actual solicitor shortly at 1pm, and if that goes well my plan is to get them to view the evidence (when it’s available) and then go with their expert opinion based on the evidence.

I will then just stick with them and try to get the best possible outcome whether that’s to go not guilty and take it to trial, or go guilty and have them help me put the best mitigation forward to keep the ban as short as possible.

Just one question, which you may or may not know the answer to. If the charge does remain as ‘unfit’ rather than ‘excess alcohol’, does that remove the possibility of me being deemed a HRO, as that is determined by the alcohol reading isn’t it, and of course no alcohol reading will be involved if they secure a conviction for ‘unfit’

Sorry for yet another question?
With positive experience of the firm in the past it definitely sounds like a good omen and hopefully a solicitor which can give you proper counsel.

Sorry, I meant to reply that initially but it escaped my mind. You will not be classed as HRO with an unfit charge.

You will fall into the HRO category if any of the following apply.

(1)

  • You have been disqualified for driving, or being in charge of a vehicle, when the level of alcohol in your body was equal to or more than:
  • 87.5 microgrammes per 100 millilitres of breath
  • 200 milligrammes per 100 millilitres of blood, or
  • 267.5 milligrammes per 100 millilitres of urine.
(2)
  • You have been disqualified twice within the space of 10 years for driving over the legal limit or for being unfit to drive because of drink.
(3)
  • You have been disqualified for refusing or failing to provide a breath, blood or urine sample for testing.
(4)
  • You have been disqualified for refusing to allow analysis of a blood sample taken due to incapacity.
 
With positive experience of the firm in the past it definitely sounds like a good omen and hopefully a solicitor which can give you proper counsel.

Sorry, I meant to reply that initially but it escaped my mind. You will not be classed as HRO with an unfit charge.

You will fall into the HRO category if any of the following apply.

(1)

  • You have been disqualified for driving, or being in charge of a vehicle, when the level of alcohol in your body was equal to or more than:
  • 87.5 microgrammes per 100 millilitres of breath
  • 200 milligrammes per 100 millilitres of blood, or
  • 267.5 milligrammes per 100 millilitres of urine.
(2)
  • You have been disqualified twice within the space of 10 years for driving over the legal limit or for being unfit to drive because of drink.
(3)
  • You have been disqualified for refusing or failing to provide a breath, blood or urine sample for testing.
(4)
  • You have been disqualified for refusing to allow analysis of a blood sample taken due to incapacity.
Thanks again. That does at least mean there’s no risk of me being deemed HRO then if the charges stay as they are.

I’ll keep you posted 👍🏻
 
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